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| logos | Apr 27, 12:25pm | en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutzon_Borglum [en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutzon_Borglum]
Born to the wife of a Danish Latter-day Saint (LDS; see also Mormon) The son of Danish immigrant, Borglum is best remembered for two grand projects, the carving at Stone Mountain and the carving at Mount Rushmore. Each story had vastly different outcomes. The carving at Stone Mountain, a tribute to the Confederate leaders, was under the control of the Ku Klux Klan. Borglum, who could be described as "headstrong," went into the project with his own ideas of how the mountain should be carved. While the Klan was willing to allow him control of how the carving was to be done they were not willing to cede creative control. As a result, Borglum ended his relationship with the group by fleeing the state, never to return. In 1927 work began on Mt. Rushmore and continued under Borglum's supervision for 13 years. It is considered an engineering marvel.Did ya know??? |
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|  Sponsor | Ogmin | Apr 27, 8:49pm | | Logos' focus is the Mormons, yes? This guy married a Mormon, otherwise this thread would never have been started. And the connection with the Civil War is.... nothing. Lee's head was unveiled in 1924 but the deal went sour and the face was removed from the rock. |
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| logos | Apr 29, 10:35pm | | Wait a minute .The point was to show one man connects the north and south monuments.kind of an end to that war.And thats LDS to you bud. Gutzon Borglum was not just married to a mormon ,he was one. so when ever you look at Mount Rushmore ,you should know the man behind it."Stone Mountain".16 mi. east of the city centre, at 6867 Memorial Drive, is Stone Mountain Park (area 5 sq. mi.), commemorating the soldiers of the southern states who fell in the Civil War. In the centre of the park is Stone Mountain, an 863 ft high mass of exposed granite with a circumference of 5 mi. On the east flank of the hill is an equestrian relief, hewn from the rock between 1923 and 1970, depicting the three Confederate leaders, President Jefferson Davis and his two generals, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee. The top of the hill can be reached by cable car, and round it runs an old steam railway. Nearby is an artificial lake on which there are paddle-steamer cruises. Other features are a museum devoted to the early days of industrialisation in the southern states, a Civil War Museum and an antebellum plantation (restored).Looks like Lee's face is there Ogmin. |
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|  Sponsor | Ogmin | Apr 30, 6:25am | That war may have ended in April 1865 or perhaps a hundred years later with the voting rights act but Borglum's work had nothing to do with reuniting north and south. Consider that it was the KKK who supported the Stone Mountain monument, that hill being the site of the their hooded night meetings and ceremonial cross-burnings. Lee's face is there on the mountain but it was not carved by a Latter Day Saint. Read closer. Henry Augustus Lukeman, Roy Faulkner and a crew of non-Mormons are the folks responsible for the Stone Mountain Monument.
As for Mt. Rushmore, it is a gross insult to the American Indians who have to look up at it. From the viewpoint of the Native Americans who lived at its base, it desecrated a holy mountain and put the faces of the chiefs of the oppressor culture as a permanent fixture between the people and the open skies.
Borglum was an egomaniac. For name and fame, he was willing to work for the KKK, adorning their council grounds with a massive visual tribute to Rebel heros and when that didn't work out, he went on to desecrate a mountain sacred to the Indians.
And another thing: Even if you wanted to do a Mount Rushmore monument, Teddy Roosevelt doesn't belong up there. He was a great ecologist but his contribution to the Nation pales in comparison to the other three. |
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| logos | May 5, 8:46pm | | What ever. |
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|  Sponsor | Ogmin | Jun 8, 3:43pm | "One thing to keep in mind when visiting; many Native Americans see the faces on the Mountain in a diferent way. So if you look at those carvings through the eyes of Native Americans, you may see them as you have never seen them before.
For instance, Teddy Roosevelt spoke about how to take the remaining lands of the Indians by war. He said, "It is a primeval warfare and it is waged as war was waged in the ages of bronze and of iron. All the merciful humanity that even war has gained during the last two thousand years is lost. It is a warfare where no pity is shown to noncombatants."
Abraham Lincoln signed off on a horrible execution by hanging of 38 Dakota warriors. It was the largest mass hanging in the history of America. Thomas Jefferson, a slave holder, signed off on the Louisiana Purchase, thus stealing millions of acres of land from the many Indian nations living on that land. In the long run it caused suffering, death and poverty that is still felt in that region even to this day. George Washington ordered the military extermination of the Indian people of New England. He was also a slave holder."
Mt. Rushmore Seen Through Native Eyes |
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